January 27, 2021
By: Dwayne Page
DeKalb County may soon be seeking another grant to purchase a new or used fire truck.
During Monday night’s monthly meeting, the county commission voted 8 to 5 to adopt a resolution expressing support for the filing of an application for a $250,000 USDA Rural Development Facility Grant with a 45% local match of $112,500. The grant application will be filed on behalf of the county and administered if approved by the Upper Cumberland Development District and funded from the capital projects category of the county budget in the 2021-22 fiscal year.
Fifth district commissioner Anita Puckett moved to adopt the resolution and sixth district commissioner Matt Adcock offered a second to the motion. It passed 8 to 5. Commissioners voting in favor were Jenny Trapp, Anita Puckett, Matt Adcock, Jerry Adcock, Jeff Barnes, Julie Young, Sabrina Farler, and Scott Little. Commissioners Beth Pafford, Bruce Malone, Myron Rhody, Janice Fish Stewart, and Bobby Johnson voted against it.
County Mayor Tim Stribling first shared with the commission the news about this grant opportunity last Thursday night during a committee of the whole meeting. Stribling said he had only learned about it a week before from Christopher Able of USDA Rural Development and explained that if the county wanted to make application it had to adopt the resolution expressing support and commitment to the project before mid February.
Although he voted for the resolution, Fifth district commissioner Jerry Adcock seemed to express concern for the county committing more money toward the purchase of another fire truck when the commission only two months ago voted to spend $250,000 from the capital projects fund to buy two used trucks to replace a couple of old homemade fire trucks in the fleet.
“When did USDA notify us about this? We just put $250,000 toward fire trucks and now a month later we are talking about putting another $112,500 toward another fire truck?” asked Commissioner Adcock.
“They called me last week and said DeKalb County qualifies for this. I just felt like I needed to bring this to the county commission and let you make a decision,” answered County Mayor Stribling.
“I am on the emergency services committee and understand what Jerry (Adcock) is saying about the $250,000 recently requested but this grant opportunity just presented itself and we are not going to have this opportunity again. I understand $112,500 is quite a bit of money but to know it means $250,000 to our emergency services gives us an opportunity to surplus some of our older fire department equipment for newer equipment. This is an opportunity we need to take part in,” said Commissioner Puckett.
When asked by Fourth district commissioner Stewart for his thoughts on the grant, Fire Chief Donny Green said its an opportunity of which the county should take advantage due to the aging fire trucks in the fleet.
“We had a very lengthy emergency services committee meeting in November and during that meeting I provided a list of all our vehicles in the fleet and their age. The average age of our whole fleet of fire trucks right now is about 21.5 years. In that meeting we talked about our most critical needs. We had two homemade fire engines that didn’t pass fleet inspection and we wanted to get those off the road for safety reasons. At that time we determined that because of our immediate needs it would be better to replace those with two used fire engines instead of buying one new one. We did find two used fire trucks but I will tell you that they (good used fire trucks) are not easy to find. I have looked all over the country including with the biggest dealers of used fire apparatus in Alabama and learned that if you find anything newer than ten years old you will be paying over the amount we would have to pay for a new fire truck in this grant for a used fire truck. Another challenge we face in buying used is finding them to fit in our fire stations. Our stations were built in 1975 and fire trucks back then looked a lot different than they do today. They were a lot smaller. Its hard to find good quality equipment to fit in our stations at a reasonable price. I think it is pretty obvious when you can get 55% of it (new or used fire truck) paid for (grant) and specify the size we need its probably not an opportunity you want to pass up,” said Chief Green.
“To put this in perspective, we have not bought a new fire truck for this county since 2012. Right now we have five fire engines out of the twelve that are over twenty years old. In eight years we will have ten of those twelve fire engines over twenty years old. In order for us to address not just today but eight years down the road and further we have to start blending in some new fire trucks in the fleet,” he continued.
Fifth district commissioner Adcock then asked Chief Green how many used fire trucks have been purchased in recent years.
“In 2017 we bought three used trucks through a Rural Development Grant including a 1993 engine, a 1996 engine, and a 1992 engine and we have two other used trucks, a 2004 and a 2006 model along with a 2009 truck that insurance replaced due to a crash. While these trucks did fill immediate needs taking some homemade and unsafe equipment off the road it did not improve the overall age of our fleet although we have tried to place them strategically in places with lower call volumes to maximize the life of the older trucks,” Chief Green explained.
Commissioner Adcock further inquired about the mileage of the fire trucks in the fleet.
“Some don’t have a lot of miles but on a fire engine mileage is not that big of a deal because their primary use is pumping at the scene which uses the engine through the PTO process so mileage is not always an accurate reading on the use of a truck. As these trucks get older you have problems with valves leaking and not being able to pass the annual pump test. I am not opposed to buying used equipment but sometimes I believe we stretch the rubber band until it breaks and I don’t want it to break on us all at once to the point where we have to come up here asking for six fire trucks,” said Chief Green.
If it is approved and funded, terms of the grant stipulate that the fire truck must be located in the western portion of the county at an existing station in the US Census tract which takes into consideration low to moderate income household demographics to determine grant eligibility. It is also a reimbursable grant meaning the county would have to pay up front and then be reimbursed 55% of the cost. Although USDA prefers the county buy a new fire truck with the grant money it could purchase a used one.
Seventh district commissioner Beth Pafford then gave her views on the grant.
“I want to commend Chief Green. He does an excellent job as fire chief for the county and advocating for the fire department but what has been on my mind is the $250,000 that we allocated to replace those two homemade vehicles and when our other fire truck crashed and it got replaced it was made evident that we really needed to do that (replace the two homemade trucks) because it was my understanding that if one of those had crashed the liability would have been on the county and we would have been on the hook for that. I feel really good about that decision. We have put $25,000 (seed money) toward the Wolf Creek station in District 1 and we added a part time position in 2019 to give the fire department someone who could be at the station to monitor calls and that went up to $24,000 (this year). I understand the need but we have had this grant come up all of a sudden. I believe there will be grants in the future we can look at when we have more time to look at our budget as a whole,” said Pafford.